Maybe somebody should sue Ronnie Coleman....
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/xrep2.htm
(first semi-stretched half reps followed by a pump set )
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/xrep2.htm
(first semi-stretched half reps followed by a pump set )
[b said:Quote[/b] ]One last time; I have personally used JReps for about 8 weeks now and I can honestly say... THEY WORK! Not only have I reached my dream of 17" calves, and for the first time in my life am re-evaluating my goals to hopefully 17 1/2", but my arms, biceps in particular - has a new shape and fullness. I'm far from being a beginner, or even an intermediate with close to 29 years of mainly Heavy Duty training behind me, so I am a little more than familiar with training all-out and various training methods. So if they delivered for me in such a short time span I think that speaks spades for their worth.
I hate to have to even make this point, but you do realize that in the history of bodybuilding, approximately 29387592579827598275982 people have made outrageous claims or anecdotes about how <insert newfangled miracle> adds miraculous inches to <some body part>, right?[b said:Quote[/b] (xahrx @ Jan. 08 2006,10:18)]Taken from the forum where the spilt beans were found. Sound familiar to anyone? And please, save the copyright infringement BS this quote could start for someone who doesn't know better.[b said:Quote[/b] ]One last time; I have personally used JReps for about 8 weeks now and I can honestly say... THEY WORK! Not only have I reached my dream of 17" calves, and for the first time in my life am re-evaluating my goals to hopefully 17 1/2", but my arms, biceps in particular - has a new shape and fullness. I'm far from being a beginner, or even an intermediate with close to 29 years of mainly Heavy Duty training behind me, so I am a little more than familiar with training all-out and various training methods. So if they delivered for me in such a short time span I think that speaks spades for their worth.
[b said:Quote[/b] (mikeynov @ Jan. 10 2006,9:20)]I hate to have to even make this point, but you do realize that in the history of bodybuilding, approximately 29387592579827598275982 people have made outrageous claims or anecdotes about how <insert newfangled miracle> adds miraculous inches to <some body part>, right?
[b said:Quote[/b] ]I do not ignore research, but I do ignore research that contradicts other research...
As I was trying to keep this JRep thread serious. That was what I meant. Due the attacks it has gotten - and continues to get - I thought that was the best way for me to show the validity of them.[/QUOTE][b said:Quote[/b] (xtreme @ Jan. 07 2006,8:33)]How is it not applicable?[b said:Quote[/b] (Jester @ Jan. 05 2006,11:31)]
Where have 'we' said that jreps dont work?[b said:Quote[/b] (xtreme @ Jan. 11 2006,1:11)]Even if I was the current Mr. Olympia it seems many of you have your minds made up that they "don't work". Well then...
I couldn've said this better.[b said:Quote[/b] (mathey @ Jan. 10 2006,6:16)]OK, fair enough...I think you may have become an innocent victim here, but here me out
You need to provide us with information so we can determine if maybe this will work for us, or maybe it won't. To come here and say "this is the greatest thing since sliced bread" but not provide any details comes off as nothing more than marketing, intentional or not and regardless of your link or non-link with the JRep "founder". I can name probably a dozen methods of training -but- I can also provide a link where you can go and check it out in verbose detail - for free!
Tell us in detail what you were doing before (exercises, reps, sets, how many days per week etc...)
Then tell us about what you are doing now in some sort of detail. (exercises, reps, sets, how many days per week etc...)
There's a million different ways to work out, and not everything works for everybody. Alot of us have found things that work well for US. I think everyone is looking to be better in some way, shape or form, but we are also a pretty open group and share volumes of information. You're pretty new here, but there are lots of people who came here and learned a great deal from this site (and many other sites as well). We'd like to think tht if you found something that works well for you, you'll come back and tell us...and not try to charge us for the priveledge.
so throw us a bone here...if you want to be taken seriously, try talking to us and giving us some details...and lets get an intelligent discussion going
[b said:Quote[/b] ]when someone comes into a forum and starts making claims about the effectiveness of something then refuses to at least provide a basic explanation, then says to find out more you have to read the book, it's pretty much spam. If you're going to discuss something, discuss it. If you're trying to sell something, just come out and say so.
[b said:Quote[/b] ]The problem with what you've done here with J-reps is that when you start a post about something under the pretense that it is a discussion, people expect you to discuss the topic, not sell them something. If you'd just come right out and said "we're selling a book" then it would have been more reasonable for people to expect to have to purchase the book to learn more about it.
1. You can't change the length of your muscle fibers. You CAN change the circumference (hypertropy) - and hence shape and size, but not lenth.[b said:Quote[/b] (xtreme @ Jan. 12 2006,12:22)]Come now, you can't be serious![b said:Quote[/b] (Totentanz @ Jan. 11 2006,7:28)]Please post some before and after pics with a sign that says HST on the current pics. It would help support your case a lot, especially since it is impossible to work only one part of the muscle, so your muscle shape cannot be changing due to training.
I don't have to prove I am doing something that works to anyone. I'm not on trial! I was simply doing it as a jesture so some of you could do likewise. Obviously that has fallen on deaf ears and been misconstrude so I think it is high time I drop this subject as to continue would obviously be a monumental waste of time for all involved.
[b said:Quote[/b] ]No great secret here... the same thing except I added JReps. So you see the changes in my body were/have to be from JReps.
[b said:Quote[/b] ]As normal sets are limited by the sticking point which ceases all efforts in their tracks