<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Especially what your goals are, and what you do and do not put into your body to achieve those goals</div> Your goals are completely irrelevant if you want to be Mr.Olympia. Take the drugs or get out of the ifbb, there is no choice. Use is 100% necessary. Same goes for the kind of totals that Andy puts up in powerlifting. The most talented will not win without drugs. That's the fact, and it's unfortunate.