I recently purchased Starr's "The strongest shall survive." Its a great book and I really like the simplicity of it. The basic program can be summed up in one short sentence: 5x5 ramping sets of power cleans, squats and bench, 3x/week with varying intensities. Of course there is a ton more info. in there on exercise execution, advanced programs, assistance exercises, sleep, nutrition and stuff that relates to football, (its primarily a football strength training program.) One thing I think may be beneficial for some is to try doing 'sets across' rather than the ramping sets to get more overall volume in. Th intensities vary during the week, so I think it wouldn't be too much to do sets across after proper warm-ups. And of course another tweak would be to make it a more body-builderish routine and substitute rows for the cleans for extra lat and bicep development, especially if your gym doesn't allow power-cleans. (I know, I know this is what all the internet variations seem to do, and rippetoe hates it.) Anyway, it seems like a solid program and especially for those who want overall strength and mass on a siomple program without doing a hundred different exercises. Any thought or experiences out there with Starrs' 5x5? p.s.- this book can be ordered through the Aasgaard Company, the same site as "Starting Strength' etc.