Protein Deprivation

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OneMoreRep

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hey guys, ( this is directed at bryan or blade or anyone with science background )


i have read a few places about protein deprivation. and using this technique to it's advantage...
many of you know that marathon runners wil deplete their carbs prior a marathon then carb up really high, in most cases the body will store upwards of 2-3 times the glycogen it had orignally.


If you were to take in a limited supply of protein 25-50 grams. while on a SD or slighlty less intense workout regimen for a period of time ( few weeks ) then go back to progression, and increase protein..

1.)during the deprivation, would the body be foreced to UP growth factors to make do with the protein you give it?

2.) after the deprivation, would the body have a growth spurt?

3.) would it store more protein then before?

4.) ( would cycling like this be advantageous? )


PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE reply.
 
I can't really answer any of the questions, but this is one of the key factors in the Optimum Anabolics workout, protein cycling. You eat high protein and progressively load, then drop protein to 30g a day for 3 weeks and drop the work load. He says that because of the low protein, testosterone and IGF-1 will go up in place of protein. When the testosterone levels are up, you switch back to a high protein diet and your body "soaks up" the protein like it never has before.
 
The only problem with protein cycling is that the body adapts to amino acid availability within hours, not days. The goal is always homeostasis in as little time as possible.

In other words, you can't "trick" the body into holding onto more protein by depriving of protien for a few days. Your example about carbs and fat involve substrate utilization. This is a completely different issue. The body does not manage amino acids in the same way it does carbohydrates and fat.
 
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Quote[/b] (OneMoreRep @ June 22 2004,1:56)]Do you have the book?
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Yes.

I don't think if it would work then, because you progressively load, then go on a hyper-adaptive cycle (30g protein/day and 3 reps short of failure in workouts) for 3 weeks, then do loading, then hyper-adaptive cycle, and you just rotate like that for 24 weeks.
 
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