Why wouldn't they with such a polite young man proposing an alternative to them...[b said:
See this is why I do not discuss politics or religion with people that I have no clue as to what their background is. Some people make extremely broad blanketed statements that not only detract from the topic and distort the truth to fit their embodiment of what is right but also pull statements from some orifice of their their body that 1. Isn't necessarily stating factual ideas 2. Degrade people with any opposing view. So where does it leave us? An extremely seperated nation. Sad but true.[b said:Quote[/b] (xahrx @ Nov. 04 2004,122)]Why wouldn't they with such a polite young man proposing an alternative to them...[b said:
Perhaps you might do well to read the backgroundof what some of those idiots believe. There's a reason why they wan't their guns, let's hope you never find out why. While I don't share their faith as I'm guessing you don't, I don't denegrate passionately held beliefs. It's a golden rule thing with me.
urple'>Purple</span>Took the words right out of my mouth, Dan![b said:
<span style='color[b said:Quote[/b] (dkm1987 @ Nov. 04 2004,6:10)]By the way Jeff there are a trillion of people in this nation who you can color <span style='color
urple'>I agree</span>, Dan. I think people really need to be reminded of that more.For such a young man you seem to have such a cynical outlook. I don't recall Xahrx mentioning any particular "phobia" and since I am in such an argumentative mood myself. What the F*** does homophobia have to with anyones political view. I will announce I am a Capitalist by nature which makes me lean a little to the right, but I am not homophobic nor do I even own a gun. Are you trying to say anyone who votes Republican is a homophobic gun slinger. This is my only issue with your posts, I truly like you a lot, but for someone so young you sure have the world pigeon holed which one day you will realise that not everything is as simple as black and white, more times than not they are merely varying shades of gray.[b said:
Speak away my friend, speak away.[b said:
but I also love the Church Lady, so just <span style='color:green'>color</span> me weird.I agree with you that when it comes to economic issues what I have learned with my degree in finance tends to make me agree more so with the traditional republican views on such issues. The only problem is that Bush is not a republican by the traditional sense of the word. He hasn't rejected one government spending bill since being in office and has run up the deficit by an incredible amount. Obviously the wars also play a role in the deficit, but as polls have shown the majority of people in America view the decision to go to Iraq as a bad one so he can't be excused simply by that. It's just a shame to me that the Republican party couldn't have run any number of other more qualified candidates 4 years ago. Then I may have had a choice in my vote. IMHO Bush does not have the presence of mind to occupy the most important position in the world.[b said:
If you believe that the American Presidency is the most important position in the world that one can occupy then I dare say you are a bit naive. I personally feel the <span style='color:red'>MOST IMPORTANT position in my world</span> is my parents and I hope now that my children are grown that they feel the same about me and my wife. It is our parents who gave us knowledge, hope, faith, confidence to face the new day and be the best we can be.[b said:
Yes. I know plenty of people of my ilk, meaning my political beliefs, that have some extreme opinions on the subject while at the same time acknowledging that the government has no business regulating such behavior. Some think this way because of religious reasons, some see it as an extension of hedonism which they disagree with in principle for whatever reason. Most see the wrongness of making laws against homosexuality. I personal don't care who does what to who and how, so long as it's consensual. People have been railing each other for years and the world has yet to explode because of it.[b said:
I'm pretty sure he was referring to the supposed big role moral values played in the election, and this I think he rightly ties that to the various gay marriage debates, bans, etc., throughout the country.[b said:
I didn't mean that to offend you or any conservative for the matter. My personal opinion is just that there are a lot of more qualified candidates in the Republican party. As for the position comment, I believe, as many do, that the person most directly in charge of the largest economic and military power (a.k.a Prez of the U.S.) does hold the most important position in the world. I don't see how you could argue against that and to say that I'm naive and then bring some point about your parents that isn't really relevant to what I was saying is beyond me. Your parents or mine don't hold the power to place millions of people into war. The Prez does. Parents don't hold a single position that effects millions. If you want to talk about who's most important in your life then you could say your parents, but when talking about what singular position is most important in the world it's hard to argue that the Prez of the U.S. is not right up at the tops.[b said:
I'd agree, but there's not much more to talk about there. I mean they're going to be illegal, that's not going to change. Periodically new substances that aren't on the list will be introduced and then subsequently added to the list. On goes the struggle for users of these substance to get the rest of the world to just leave us alone already.[b said:
That's actually a very interesting position, xahrx, and actually argued in this article which says, "Legally speaking, the couple should be married by the state, separate from whatever marriage ceremony the couple may also choose to have, either before or after the legal certification of marriage by public officials…The separation of the marriage certificate from the marriage ceremony parallels the separation of the birth certificate from infant baptism and the separation of the death certificate from the funeral service."[b said:
No I am not offended, not at all. I also wouldn't call myself a conservative, not that you did. I do not share their beliefs, hell I'm agnostic[b said:Quote[/b] (ejones @ Nov. 04 2004,5:36)]9-->I didn't mean that to offend you or any conservative for the matter. My personal opinion is just that there are a lot of more qualified candidates in the Republican party. As for the position comment, I believe, as many do, that the person most directly in charge of the largest economic and military power (a.k.a Prez of the U.S.) does hold the most important position in the world. I don't see how you could argue against that and to say that I'm naive and then bring some point about your parents that isn't really relevant to what I was saying is beyond me. Your parents or mine don't hold the power to place millions of people into war. The Prez does. Parents don't hold a single position that effects millions. If you want to talk about who's most important in your life then you could say your parents, but when talking about what singular position is most important in the world it's hard to argue that the Prez of the U.S. is not right up at the tops.[b said:Quote[/b] (dkm1987 @ Nov. 04 2004,59)]If you believe that the American Presidency is the most important position in the world that one can occupy then I dare say you are a bit naive. I personally feel the <span style='color:red'>MOST IMPORTANT position in my world</span> is my parents and I hope now that my children are grown that they feel the same about me and my wife. It is our parents who gave us knowledge, hope, faith, confidence to face the new day and be the best we can be.
And whether steroids or prohormones or whatever actually do sneak back on topic at all is obviously a matter of choice also.[b said:
I don't mean to drag this out but I just wanted to clarify that I do fully understand the process. That's why I said the Prez was "most directly in charge" and not just "in charge." The House and Senate are made up individuals which combined together possess a lot of power, but no single individual in them has anywhere close to the level of power or influence of the Prez.[b said:
I never said that. Point it out where I said that.[b said:
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