there is no doubt they work, but its not just the supplements that we want. When there is a correlation between say vitamin C and preventing cancer, what actually caused that. The food that vitamin c is carried in (along with all the other chemicals/phytonutrients) or the vitamin c itself?[b said:Quote[/b] (Mindwraith @ April 30 2003,3:42)]Aaron is right for the most part, however I'm not so sure that vitamin supplements (i.e. vitamin c, e, d) don't work as intended.
I was using vitamin C as an example. Beyond the effect of prevention of scurvey (~10-20mg.day) and potentially increasing antioxidant protection (usually 200-500mg tops)there isnt a huge amount of benefit of huge doses.[b said:Quote[/b] (Mindwraith @ May 02 2003,4:09)]Its been tested in many case studies that vitamin C alone is what prevents scurvy and boosts the immune system in its ability to fight disease. I'm not sure where you're getting your doubts on this but this has been a known fact for several years now.
Food is better, but not for the reasons you mention.
So whats wrong with the reasons of 'along with all the other chemicals/phytonutrients'[b said:Quote[/b] ]Food is better, but not for the reasons you mention.
Food provides, protein, carbohydrates, water, fats, vitamins, minerals, phytonutrients, other chemicals (some unknown), fibre yada yada yada
THere aint no supplement at this point that can anywhere compete.
If you are eating a variety of foods, in an increased quantity to grow, then no.[b said:Quote[/b] ]So I don't need additional vit/min in pill form in order to grow?
Your lucky, most people dont get this affect (Vit C and recovery trials have been pretty much negative, although there has been some that have been positive with Vit E and recovery/soreness)[b said:Quote[/b] ]What about vit C for example? When I took 1g of vit C in addition to what I get from my diet, I recovered quicker.
Just some food for thought: This study suggests that vitamin C supplementation after an injury increases tissue damage and oxidative stress, which, if I'm not mistaken, could be benifitial for hypertrophy.[b said:Quote[/b] (edziu @ May 10 2003,9:01)]Vitamin C actually has a slight anti-hypertrophic effect (Bryan avoids taking it around workouts.)
Well, its like using a machine the has so much friction that the eccentric portion of an exercise becomes much lighter than the concentric portion. Sure, it will still work, but it could work a little better if the eccentric portion was just as heavy...like free weights.[b said:Quote[/b] (Janne @ May 29 2003,1:45)]Given that some antioxidants may hinder hypertrophy by reducing oxadative stress, do you think they should be avoided immediately before and/or after workouts?