Hello everyone, Was just interested to see what supplements everyone uses when going on a cutting cycle. With the spring time and beach weather not to far away I will soon be starting my mission to get "ripped" for the summer, and just wondered if we could all share the "secrets" to diet and supplementation that we have learnt over the years. Along with a good diet plan I like to use; Whey Protein BCAA's CLA Thermogenic fat burners Green tea look forward to see what people bring to the table (pardon the pun)
I use Ephedrine Sulfate 12.5 mg every 2 hours (brokaid brand) Caffeine 100 mg every 2 hours 2-3Gm L-leucine powder with meals Nicotine Patch 21mg I also use Intermittent fasting (16hour fast/ 8hour feeding window) with a caloric defecit between 500-1000 cals less. I also try to keep protein at ~100-120Gm/day. The above never fails to give me great results. I do NOT suggest the above for everyone. I've personally tried the whole green tea and CLA thing and found the effects to be negligible compared to the EC stack.
I use 25 mg Ephedrine (in Bronkaid) twice a day with coffee and Execedrin (that give me more than 200 mg caffeine twice a day. It was a little shaky at first but now I hardly notice. Buying Bronkaid these days is like buying a gun: you've gotta show picture ID and sign their little book. Sheesh! I used to use leucine, but can no longer find it in northwest Ohio.
Thanks guys. Being from the UK, I dont hold out much hope of acquiring Brokaid. Kracyk, Does the nicotine patch help with cutting? Or are you giving up the smokes?
I use the nicotine for cutting, but I used to be addicted to nicotine (from smoking, not the patch). Nicotine really cuts appetite, but beware because it is ULTRA addictive. Again I cannot overstate its addictive potential
Interesting. However being a non smoker, I think I might give the nicotine patches a miss. But many thanks for your tip!
What does everyone think of this cutting diet? Wake 6.30 am Strong black tea / coffee 40-50 mins low intensity cardio 7.30 breakfast Porridge: 30g oats + skimmed milk + tsp sugar 3 egg whites + 1 egg yolk scrambled 200ml fresh fruit juice 10.00 100g chicken/turkey breast 2 oatcakes Fruit Mug green tea 12.30 180g tuna or mackerel salmon or chicken breast 30g whole meal pasta or basmati rice Large mixed salad Mug green tea 15.00 100g chicken/turkey breast 2 oatcakes Fruit Mug green tea 45 mins pre-workout 20g whey protein powder in water 2 oatcakes Banana Drink water 45 mins intense weight training Immediately post workout 40g whey protein powder + 5g glutamine in water Evening meal 60 mins later 150g lean red meat or 180g salmon steak 40g whole meal pasta or 40g basmati rice or 2-3 small boiled new potatoes Large serving mixed vegetables 22.00 200g cottage cheese
It's hard to say without knowing your body weight, body fat percentage, workout schedule, etc. When you are cutting, the main things to focus on are: 1) Protein -- anywhere from 1.25g to 1.5g per lb of body weight, and 2) Lifting heavy at least twice a week.
Well my body stats are; Body weight = 87kg Height = 5ft10 Body fat = approx 14% I have been doing 3 days heavy lifting a week, following a basic HST program, and bulking out. I am looking to start cutting once I have finished my SD and start my next cycle of HST which will be around early March. The program I am going to use is below; Workout A (Push) Monday and Thursday Squat alt with leg press Incline press alt with flat bench press BB Close grip press Military press Leg extension Tricep extension Weighted sit ups Workout B (Push) Tuesday & Friday Deadlift alt with Leg curl Wide Grip Pull Down alt with Wide grip Chin ups Reverse Fly BO Row Shrugs BB Bicep Curl I will be doing this with the HST principles of 2 wks 15 reps, 2 wks 10 resp 2 weeks 5 reps 2 weeks negs. I will then SD before I think of my next cycle.
Looking at some of Lyle McDonald's recommendations, I'd say with 14% body fat and heavy weight training experience, you'd want to keep your protein intake at about 2.0 g per pound of lean body mass (you should multiply your weight in kg by 2.2 to make my numbers work). Figure 87 kg * 2.2 = 191.4 lbs body fat in lbs. would be 194.4 lbs. * .14 = 26.8 lbs. Lean Body Mass would be 194.4 - 26.8 = 167.6 lbs so take 167.6 * 2.0 g = 335.2 grams of protein That's well over 1300 calories per day, so plan your carb and oil intake accordingly. [This is just my take, using the numbers from the Rapid Fat Loss Diet. Your mileage may vary.]
Im on week 5 of a cut right now, 94kg/207lbs @ 13% I just use caffeine when im hungry or tired, normally from a strong coffee or a caffeine based fat burner. Right now im using SciFit Procuts and there pretty decent. other than that its Fishoil, Glutamine, Kre Alkalyn (creatine) and a multi. Lifting 4 days per week HST style
Thanks TR, thats very helpful, I like how you laid that out. LDU, Thanks for your input too. Always good to see what everyone else does. I always find the cutting cycle needs so much more care in the diet than the bulking stage.
Hi,, supplements are good too reduce weight but some time it effect negatively... so our focus should be on exercise and training... Join the gym to get proper information regarding health..
