Cutting Supplements

Discussion in 'Anything and Everything about dietary supplements' started by Browner, Feb 1, 2011.

  1. Browner

    Browner Well-Known Member

    Hello everyone,

    Was just interested to see what supplements everyone uses when going on a cutting cycle. With the spring time and beach weather not to far away I will soon be starting my mission to get "ripped" for the summer, and just wondered if we could all share the "secrets" to diet and supplementation that we have learnt over the years.

    Along with a good diet plan I like to use;

    Whey Protein
    Thermogenic fat burners
    Green tea

    look forward to see what people bring to the table (pardon the pun)
  2. krazyk18711

    krazyk18711 New Member

    I use

    Ephedrine Sulfate 12.5 mg every 2 hours (brokaid brand)
    Caffeine 100 mg every 2 hours
    2-3Gm L-leucine powder with meals
    Nicotine Patch 21mg

    I also use Intermittent fasting (16hour fast/ 8hour feeding window) with a caloric defecit between 500-1000 cals less. I also try to keep protein at ~100-120Gm/day.
    The above never fails to give me great results. I do NOT suggest the above for everyone.

    I've personally tried the whole green tea and CLA thing and found the effects to be negligible compared to the EC stack.
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2011
  3. TunnelRat

    TunnelRat Active Member

    I use 25 mg Ephedrine (in Bronkaid) twice a day with coffee and Execedrin (that give me more than 200 mg caffeine twice a day. It was a little shaky at first but now I hardly notice.

    Buying Bronkaid these days is like buying a gun: you've gotta show picture ID and sign their little book. Sheesh!

    I used to use leucine, but can no longer find it in northwest Ohio.
  4. Browner

    Browner Well-Known Member

    Thanks guys. Being from the UK, I dont hold out much hope of acquiring Brokaid.


    Does the nicotine patch help with cutting? Or are you giving up the smokes?
  5. krazyk18711

    krazyk18711 New Member

    I use the nicotine for cutting, but I used to be addicted to nicotine (from smoking, not the patch). Nicotine really cuts appetite, but beware because it is ULTRA addictive. Again I cannot overstate its addictive potential
  6. Browner

    Browner Well-Known Member

    Interesting. However being a non smoker, I think I might give the nicotine patches a miss. But many thanks for your tip!
  7. Browner

    Browner Well-Known Member

    What does everyone think of this cutting diet?

    Wake 6.30 am
    Strong black tea / coffee

    40-50 mins low intensity cardio

    7.30 breakfast
    Porridge: 30g oats + skimmed milk + tsp sugar

    3 egg whites + 1 egg yolk scrambled

    200ml fresh fruit juice

    100g chicken/turkey breast

    2 oatcakes


    Mug green tea

    180g tuna or mackerel salmon or chicken breast

    30g whole meal pasta or basmati rice

    Large mixed salad

    Mug green tea

    100g chicken/turkey breast

    2 oatcakes


    Mug green tea

    45 mins pre-workout
    20g whey protein powder in water

    2 oatcakes


    Drink water

    45 mins intense weight training

    Immediately post workout
    40g whey protein powder + 5g glutamine in water

    Evening meal
    60 mins later

    150g lean red meat or 180g salmon steak
    40g whole meal pasta or 40g basmati rice or 2-3 small boiled new potatoes

    Large serving mixed vegetables

    200g cottage cheese
  8. TunnelRat

    TunnelRat Active Member

    It's hard to say without knowing your body weight, body fat percentage, workout schedule, etc.

    When you are cutting, the main things to focus on are:

    1) Protein -- anywhere from 1.25g to 1.5g per lb of body weight, and

    2) Lifting heavy at least twice a week.
  9. Browner

    Browner Well-Known Member

    Well my body stats are;

    Body weight = 87kg
    Height = 5ft10
    Body fat = approx 14%

    I have been doing 3 days heavy lifting a week, following a basic HST program, and bulking out. I am looking to start cutting once I have finished my SD and start my next cycle of HST which will be around early March. The program I am going to use is below;

    Workout A (Push) Monday and Thursday
    Squat alt with leg press
    Incline press alt with flat bench press
    BB Close grip press
    Military press
    Leg extension
    Tricep extension
    Weighted sit ups

    Workout B (Push) Tuesday & Friday
    Deadlift alt with Leg curl
    Wide Grip Pull Down alt with Wide grip Chin ups
    Reverse Fly
    BO Row
    BB Bicep Curl

    I will be doing this with the HST principles of 2 wks 15 reps, 2 wks 10 resp 2 weeks 5 reps 2 weeks negs. I will then SD before I think of my next cycle.
  10. TunnelRat

    TunnelRat Active Member

    Looking at some of Lyle McDonald's recommendations, I'd say with 14% body fat and heavy weight training experience, you'd want to keep your protein intake at about 2.0 g per pound of lean body mass (you should multiply your weight in kg by 2.2 to make my numbers work).

    Figure 87 kg * 2.2 = 191.4 lbs
    body fat in lbs. would be 194.4 lbs. * .14 = 26.8 lbs.
    Lean Body Mass would be 194.4 - 26.8 = 167.6 lbs

    so take 167.6 * 2.0 g = 335.2 grams of protein

    That's well over 1300 calories per day, so plan your carb and oil intake accordingly.

    [This is just my take, using the numbers from the Rapid Fat Loss Diet. Your mileage may vary.]
  11. LDU

    LDU New Member

    Im on week 5 of a cut right now, 94kg/207lbs @ 13%

    I just use caffeine when im hungry or tired, normally from a strong coffee or a caffeine based fat burner. Right now im using SciFit Procuts and there pretty decent.

    other than that its Fishoil, Glutamine, Kre Alkalyn (creatine) and a multi.

    Lifting 4 days per week HST style
  12. Browner

    Browner Well-Known Member

    Thanks TR, thats very helpful, I like how you laid that out.

    LDU, Thanks for your input too. Always good to see what everyone else does.

    I always find the cutting cycle needs so much more care in the diet than the bulking stage.
  13. Browner

    Browner Well-Known Member

    No problem. Make sure to let us know what you went for, and how it worked for you
  14. Higuain

    Higuain New Member

    supplements are good too reduce weight but some time it effect negatively...
    so our focus should be on exercise and training...
    Join the gym to get proper information regarding health..

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