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*sigh* Consider this. Oxymetholone. Powerful steroid, yes? It's a precursor to Methyl-Dihydrotestosterone, which is what is believed in some circles to give it most of its effects, thereby making it a so-called "prohormone". "Prohormone", "precursor", and like...

Do yourself a favor and take chemistry courses. Nothing you said invalidates that "prohormones" and "target" androgens are both STEROIDS.

Just 'cause I don't wanna type it out again. http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/cgi-bin....0;r=1;&

The key here is one's level of expectation. Ecdysterone, despite naysayers, is a pretty decent adaptogen when taken in large dosages. GRAMS. I've done 6g/day before of a now-defunct high-quality product, and it was useful for boosting strength and a small amount muscle gain on an otherwise...

Steroids are delicious.

I kind of agree with this. I think it's really an issue of ego frailty, though, when you boil it down. When I was primarily concerned with Bodybuilding, years ago, feeling like my body was woefully inadequate, relative to other Bodybuilders, was something I considered important. However, upon...

I care about them. What saddens me is when people talk about them, or "preach" about them, but have failed to arm themselves with extensive knowledge of the subject. I don't think using them is a prerequisite.

Ditto. In every aspect.

Do you enjoy competitive athletics at the present time? If so, you are enjoying the effects of steroid use. :)

It's a survey, given to children, and is essentially worthless. When we had them, when I was still a child, almost every kid in the class filled them out to make them seem as outrageous as possible. Also, many kids have been given steroidal cremes for rashes and steroidal inhalers for asthma...

Athletics, at most levels, have already been thoroughly infused. "All of your heros are on everything but roller skates."

MY goals involve far more than mere time. Time and effort, alone, are simply not enough. I already explained what group, of the three I described, I fall into. You could state your opinion of importance with regard to ANY sport, hobby, occupation, or interest. The saying goes: "To each his...

That's easy. Some want to get where they could eventually go, but faster. This is your average user. In my case, I'm not satisfied by what I am, and seek to go a step further than my endogenous hormones allow. This is a smaller group of users. Others have occupations or social lives that...

Icewater enemas. Seriously, though, this is just what happens when you are emitting extra heat energy. You just have to take it (or not).

I should add that I defended this position well before I had ever decided to use. Learning is good. Really.

I do use various ergogens to help achieve my goals. "I'm natural and know the difference between juicers and naturals." That's a pretty neat superpower, duuuuuuude. What you fail to realize is that I, unlike you, have been able to observe the situation from both the standpoint of...

Does the person with the largest arm flexors and largest trapezius win the Strict Curl competition? Do you think the IFBB pro with the largest arm flexors could "walk on" and simply dominate the sport, as his muscle mass would be greater than those of the usual competitors? I'd wager...

I guess. Very. Dunno. I'm sure there may be, but I don't follow sports and performance journals.

Are skills no longer neural? It must all be chi, babe. And this: "Maybe he also progress because he uses better drugs or more powerfull drugs." That just shows how very little you know about the types, availability, and effects of ergogenic pharmaceuticals.

Power Cleans and Chins would take care of your entire back.