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Squats/Deads Dips Chins Clean and Press Incline Curls/OH Db Extensions (not neccessary) Calf Raises (not neccessary) Ab work (not neccessary) That's my routine, the first 4 (5 if you don't count that i alternate squats/deads) are all i think is needed.

Yeah Colby that's what Vicious said in Pimp my HST.

I grow while smoking. Not something i'm particularly proud of and i really want to quit, but it hasn't affected bodybuilding whatsoever. Cardio's a different story. ;)

I just like getting right into the most productive weights of a cycle. Also shortens my HST cycles to around 4 weeks or so, depending on how far i can go with the weight progression, which keeps my head clear. It's nice working with one rep range as well, no zig zags, clear goal allways insight...

For someone like myself though who starts in the 5's, i think a light detraining week of 15 easy reps would be sufficient enough. It would also probably help maintain muscle, aid in keeping full and helping the joints.

Yes something very similar to that. Cluster/negs to reach 5 reps during the post 5's, and metabolic work is a light set of 15 after all my sets. I'd use the same weights during the 'SD' period, like 135 x 15 for squats, and so on when my 5rm is 315 ... so it's nice and light.

In the thread they discuss whether SD is neccessary, and seem to lean towards a week of deloading (light weights, low intensity) as the way to go. I start in the heaviest ranges on my HST cycles and am considering a low weight 15's week instead of SD'ing. Probably would help with maintaning too...

All the principles seem find within the thread. Only thing that is questioned, which i am also questioning, is SD'ing.

Well unless your total daily carbs come out to under 100 grams, you won't slip into ketosis, thus not truly a TKD.

PSMF link: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=38 A quick primer on it at Lyle's board.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=38 There's a sticky on PSMF from Lyle's board. It's straight to the point. Rapid Fat Loss is the book on it by the way.

I don't agree with that. Why do PSMF's and so on work so well then? You cut the fat very fast and, according to Lyle's board and my own experiences, don't seem to lose any muscle. Maybe when you start getting close to competition it would be more of a problem, i havn't been that lean before...

Old and Grey used to talk about similar results eating 200-300 calories above maintenance.

Bulk and lift heavy ... for a long time. =)

I do full rep deadlifts too, i thought that was the only way to do them? I mean, it would be really hard to keep lowering it just an inch from the floor and bringing it back up, especially during the heavy weights. That second or so that it's on the ground is like a break for me.

For me it's my legs and back. They were allways the most developed after years of football weight lifting. Mostly squats, cleans, etc. I've been emphasizing my chest and arms for a while and they're starting to really fill out though. Calves are still weak, although continuously improving...

That whole post i thought you were talking about AAS until number 7. Cuz i KNOW that's not true.

Why do just Incline bench? What about flat bench or dips? They'll hit the whole chest moreso than the incline will. The incline doesn't hit the upper chest harder, it just hits the lower chest softer, giving the upper chest more overall growth stimulis.

I believe the big 4 are squats, deadlifts, chins, and dips.

Oh yeah! How about squats, bbq, nap. Wake, beer, orgy, nap. Hell of a day there.