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Hi all. For the last few months I have been working hard to finally rid myself of that last few lbs of BF. I have been using a "Accumeasure" fat caliper for a while. Probably not the most accurate device available but something I can use myself and it seems to be pretty good at...

Put in a bright package backed up by extensive and crative advertsing and 'they will come". Save your $$$. Get the HCL "mini-thins" (8mg ea) and have a coffee. A 1 month supply of HCL in Canada from GNC - C$ 20. A bottle of Hydroxycut, Fat Nuker, or whatever...C$50 for 20 day...

Ephedrine HCL is made in a lab. Ma Haung is the herbal form. The effectiveness is based on the alkaloid content. I have taken both forms and found both effective, perhaps the herbal form seems to give a better thermogenic effect. The only advice I have to offer is NEVER exceed the 20mg dosage...