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wow, awesome, thanks for the recommendations, any more would be welcomed

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so i just calculated how much protein i am having per day, and at most it would be around 100 grams, but probably less. I am a senior in highschool and really i have NO way of getting 167 grams of protein in a day. How am i suppose to acheive this? i have 6-7 meals a day, and... 1 gram of...

wow.. haha, that does look pretty sketchy to me. alrigh alright Aaron you win thanks for the help

I'm not sure Aaron. The site gives a very hefty load of information against whey protein. I guess the real question is how well will it pertain to body builders? there are a pile of studies there done on cows, women with menopause and all sorts of junk. But really should we just whipe this off...

ok. so i found some pretty scary stuff about whey protein. Never knew these effects could take place. Seems to be a serious problem, or is it just hype? Whey Also Contains Insulin Growth Factor (IGF-1) On January 23, 1998 researchers at the Harvard Medical School released a major study...

"DKM was trying to kill it at once," http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/cgi-bin....dkm1987 Bryan referred to it as you trying to end the thread quick . But yes, i will go do my reading up on the protein. thanks for the replies

i believe there is a problem with Insulin levels when you take whey protein too much. I'm not sure. Look in the thread protein release rates and concentration. Biz posted something i think people shold know about, but he hasn't specified anything yet. :confused:

ahhh, alright i understand. so i guess that means we use up a pretty decent amount of our ATP even before we reach failure so even without the overload it is beneficial. mmm gotcha. thanks again dkm.

Savage, i read the stuff at that url. Basically its the same stuff around bodybuilding.com and alot of other places. But, since creatine, or rejuvenation of ATP occurs mostly when you train to failure, or something like such that apply with workout methods such as Max ot, HIIT. And as you take...

but how else will it aid HST users? im guessing the size will be larger due to volumization that comes a long with extra creatine. and do u recommend, instead of just raising maxes by 5-10lbs each time, to increase it by 5-10% for future cycles? what really can HSTers gain from using crea? we...

I'm not sure if this is a totally noob question or not, but i've read all over the place on bodybuilding.com and the effects that are related with energy usage. The articles stress being able to , lift more, go one more rep, one more set, one higher weight. Do we need this for HST? They say all...

hrmmmm. could you point me in the right direction for information about protein and insulin levels? i've only read that it will lead to higher insulin levels, thus keeping you in a more anabolic state. thats as far as my knowledge goes about it. Are u suggesting not to take whey protein as...

hrmmm ic.. but is it really worth buying slow protein? 20grams doesn't seem a lot if its going to slowly provide you with 20 grams, there are products saying that it'll provide time releaseed proteins i think based on the different types such as whey,casein, etc. its called probolic protein...

how are there proteins out there that take longer to release than others? Specifically how do the powders work, is it just due to the different types of protein? egg vs whey and all that? also, the slow proteins out there, are they really effective? many brands say that they have slow protein...

how are there proteins out there that take longer to release than others? Specifically how do the powders work, is it just due to the different types of protein? egg vs whey and all that? also, the slow proteins out there, are they really effective? many brands say that they have slow protein...

ahhh, alright gotcha.

Bryan or anyone else, im not sure if you've heard of it or not, its quite new i just got an article on it in Physical form GNC. The protein powder is called Probolic SR. heres an excerpt "PROBOLIC-SR is the only protein in existence to provide a 4-stage delivery, making it the ideal...

alright. mr Haycock explained it pretty well right here. http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/cgi-bin....8;&#top thanks again guys =)

thanks dkm. if you could relate that post to Lars' post about losing fat and gaining mass. does that mean i can just stay in the maintenance cal area, stay on my HST cycles, and lose body fat til im happy? a bit of vaguness between what Lars was saying that its not wise to do that because it's...