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Cool ya did it! what progress attributes have or do you see? I think you said you didn't take measurements, anything on the scale, or just the mirror?

And what bugs me, is twice at least, I had been training heavy, true 6-8RM's, I went straight into Gironda style training, using more like 15-20RM's and grew like crazy, so my tissue wasn't stubborn to load for sure, as way LESS load caused growth.

Good question... I'll put my thoughts from what I see in the research... 1) Yes, higher load does for sure increase per fiber tension. Let's say the nervous system activates a fiber during a set, it starts out at minimal rate coding, just adding a 'little' tension to help out where the previous...

OK cool , me too, I over babbled on this lol. Hopefully it'll continue in the future, fun discussion!

I'm lost too... So Totentanz would be even bigger with longer lasting sets? (TUL) I can't imagine that. Load, work, volume, all that mixes in, people can gain a ton of size even with things like 8x3. And sure, bone structure makes a huge difference, but seems to be a range, some seem to start...

Hey Mike, you disapeared.

Oh ok, thanks! Never heard that phrase before

I don't know what that means lol

I just heard this today, with Brian Minor, it was a good listen. One thing that bugs me with most of this... The phrase 'Apply tension' to a muscle.. Muscles create tension, I think using 'apply' is very misleading, makes people think if they put 200 on the bar, they are applying 200 to all the...

good thoughts and summation, that sounds how it sure seems to me. to me, that also explains why volume and 'density' increase the stimulation, and how lighter loads also work as well. It just seems so undeniably logical that the only reason a fiber would need to adapt, is if 'what it has isn't...

I'm sure it 'counts'.... the more 'perfect' a protein is, the more you get to 'keep' of course, but it's probably not really that much difference in effect in reality I bet.

OK cool I think , just as with tension, it's more a side effect.... metabolic stress can be seen when fibers fatigue. I think some studies show it can have a factor in stimulation itself, but I bet it's more 'part of' the fatigue (fatigue as in force loss) effects. Possibly mechanical fatigue...

Here does this help? I made it so maybe it's too lame lol numbers horizontal across bottom are 10 motor units numbers vertically are the rate coding level first one you can see MU 10 isn't even recruited but MU 1 is recruited and at max rate coding mu 2 is recruited and at level 9 rate coding...

You read my mind was thinking of condensing too! OK yes... and... recruitment and rate coding increase at the same time. So just in case anyone reading this is thinking we increase recruitment, THEN rate coding goes up, no it's all at the same time. It's like one signal coming in, as the signal...

I know above wasn't to me, but just to chime in, I've had great results with myo reps and way back in the 90s I did something very similar (I called it non failure rest pause back then), now all the studies showing rest pause and drop sets are the same as regular sets, it sure seems like a good...

Yes and theoretical banter many times never even makes it into the gym, it's all fun mind bending talk! Curiosity.. Wait again... think fiber level, then recruitment is which fibers... so it's not full recruitment for hypertrophy, it's activation ..(rate coding, leading to high calcium...

Man I know, most don't 'get it' that this is like a fun side hobby, people say, just lift.. sure, but this is a whole other fun part that even can help with the lifting sometimes. To me, I see it as absolute evidence that actual fiber tension isn't a factor, or not 'the' factor. I really see...

Not to spam this but love these discussions, so rare now a days! (Don't miss my posts above :) ) But here are a few interesting things.... think of calcium and calcineurin from above post https://europepmc.org/backend/ptpmcrender.fcgi?accid=PMC2229059&blobtype=pdf Measurements of the...

I've experienced similar Was using actual 5RM's for a while, for a change, switched to a Gironda style workout (this happened twice), dropped loads a LOT, but used very short rest periods, high fatigue... I grew quite a bit over the course of a whole summer with those lighter loads. The...

I posted this yesterday on fB in a discussion, it's kinda what the general idea of adaptations seem like over all... It seems most cellular adaptations are related to 'stress', stress causing performance inadequacies. Cells seem to adapt to prevent the possibility of that stress, if occurs...